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\nHere is the correction:
\nCorrected Completeness Theorem:
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\nCorrected First Incompleteness Theorem:
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IF: Gödel's First Incompleteness Theorem is disproven by Dynamic Logic and arguments against its flawed interpretation of limitations on knowledge and intelligibility on/in Logos. 

THEN: Gödel's Second Incompleteness Theorem loses its basis and meaningfulness also.\n
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\nCorrected Completeness Theorem:
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\nCorrected Second Incompleteness Theorem:
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\n* If F is consistent, Con(F) must be decidable in F. A formal system can prove its own consistency if it is in fact consistent.
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IF: Gödel's First Incompleteness Theorem is disproven by Dynamic Logic and arguments against its flawed interpretation of limitations on knowledge and intelligibility on/in Logos. 

THEN: Gödel's Second Incompleteness Theorem loses its basis and meaningfulness also.\n
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